I've noticed that description for Philip's bonus to heroics and logistics is the other way round

I'm not sure what you mean by this. You may not have noticed tha Philip only starts with 3 stars now and those are bumped to 5 after completing the new objective "Military Prowess". I also found a few typos in the skill tooltips (heroics & food ) which will be fixed in the next update.

TBH I couldn't remember what I meant in the morning... But now having checked I know! The morale value of a unit is just above its logistics skills, and food amount is just above heroics - sort of the other way round :) It's probably been like this forever but I got confused when while checking units's morale details my mouse moved a little bit too far and I saw: -20% food consumption! Too much time in front of the screen... ;)
Also, I mentioned that at Alpha 4 - punish Olynthus is now part of Sacred War objective, not Olynthus first blood - why? When you tear down it's walls you get Callistratus the scholar in Olynthus and - as it turned out later - a general called Alcetas in Dion. When I captured Dion a lot later he was just waitng there.

The punish Olynthus (Insolence Demands Destruction) has been in the sacred war objective since the launch of Philip as I believe it historically marked the end of that war. We also wanted the player to be aware of it early rather than only after they explored to the east. As far as the general is concerned, when we dropped the villas out of gold we had to assign each new general to a macedonian city and I think jim just tried to vary them up. Although the reward message does specify he's in dion we could still leave his home as dion and put him in olynthus if you guys think that would better.

My mistake about Olynthus - see explanation above:) As long as the game doesnt crash if a general spawns in a city that's not yours I don't see a problem but maybe there's a better place somewhere east of Pella - you are more likely to take these cities in order to get to Olynthus then Dion. BTW - what happens if he gets defeated while his home is still enemy occupied? Does he get back and wait until you've conquered it? I guess so.

Not sure how this happened, but all of sudden "Rebellion in the Empire" just triggered, and the 2nd objective "A Lesbian Uprising" automatically completed, and now it says that Mytilene will never rebel, however, I just looked inside and I can only recruit mercenary units, so not sure if that's intended to be like that, since based off the descriptions it seems everything should go back to the way it was. (which in this case, they should still be allies again I assume right?)

Also, Lesbos now is still in rebellion, and the first objective of that "Stockholm Syndrome" is still considered a hidden objective. So again, not sure how these objectives triggered, since I haven't been in that area for a long time, but just letting you know in case you guys feel it's not working as intended.

Also, to further touch up on that "Rebellion in the Empire"

It seems, since that Triggered, thus the alliance I had with Lesbos got broken, the hostility of all factions went up against me, so again not sure if that was intentional, or another bug like the Macedonia one.

Another Bug, this time from the Objective "Message to Corinth"

It states I need to capture 3 Acarnanian Cities, and as a reward those cities will be mine and won't rebel. Well, I just captured Stratos, Acarnania, and Amphiochia which the description of these cities clearly states that they are Acarnanian Cities, however, the objective did not complete.

I will continue wipe out the cities, to see what finally triggers this if it does, and will report back to this post if it eventually does trigger.

That objective is indeed truly bugged, as I just conquered all Acaranian Cities own by the Peloponnese League, including mines and towers, and that objective still did not complete. Also, it seems one of the Generals there, became mine, his name "Pleistoanax" (Pretty good stats 5/5/5/5/5), so not sure if that's meant to be, as he came under my control after I captured Leucas.

Well for myself as I said I find it very hard to get past the control scheme in combat.. spotting bugs in quests is beyond me as there are hundreds of quests and I'm a much more 'every day' kind of player.. I just go around capturing cities as I see fit. on occasion I look at a quest to see if there's some kind of reward but usually not.
I think for mainstream it'll be better to have considerably fewer objectives but BIG important ones that can be achieved in different ways, instead of very clean cut objectives like 'capture guard tower X' or 'capture town X' copy-pasted a lot (now I know it's not like that, there's a huge amount of history and flavor text and everything. depth, in short. but to the casual gamer in me it does feel a bit like that. I think overall I'd prefer a compromise).

But the control scheme for combat! that's really the most important I think.
In no other strategy game you select a whole buch of units that stay in formation by clicking on a single unit and issuing it a command. it's a bit counter-intuitive and requires a LOT of double-clicking and the unlearning of every control-scheme convention from other games.

cant wait for version 7

why other factions does not have catapults?

Some suggestions:

1) Enumerate unit shortcut list.
3) Add addition unit shortcuts, I dont know how, but let discuss.
2) Add "RunAway City",when unit defeated run to this city instead of home.
3) General and army must runaway to same cities.
3) Add adition alert "Rebeling Cities" like "No Food","Attacked", "Enemy Sited".

Its great game and I realy miss these options.

why other factions does not have catapults?
As nicely explained in the manual catapults were something that Philip introduced to the siegecraft. Until that point sieges would be very passive and take years, unless there was some traitor who could open the gates.

I think you've more or less hit on our intentions with the new content in gold. The sandbox mode was intended for players like you who just want to go out and capture cities and conquer territory with no boundaries and no restrictions.

On the other hand, the two new campaigns have fewer but more focused objectives than Philip with the intention that there would be multiple approaches to solving each one.

That makes sense, but it does make the scenarios way shorter then what Phillip was though if that's your intention. I mean in my completed Archidamian scenario, I felt like I accomplished a lot, but it wasn't because of the objectives though. Since, I completely subdued Thebes, Corinth, and the Acarnanian Cities, so when I actually started landing on the coast of Pylos and such, it would make sense that Sparta would go for a truce with me.

However, if I didn't do extra side non-objective stuff, I think the little things you do with the main objectives shouldn't drive Sparta to a truce with you in reality, so I personally feel that there should be more objectives to reflect Athens naval power towards that Peloponnese coast, which in turn would drive Sparta to an uneasy truce with you.

Hello all,

I'm brand new to all this, and have a small question.

When I started up Hegemony Gold, I decided to try out the Sandbox and play as the Spartans - after highlighting a lot of units to make them exit the city of Sparta, I CTD'd and got a message advising me to create a memory dump text file (which I did) to be sent to the devs. What should I do now and how should I send it? (Side note: I have since played as the Illyrians and had no problems).

Also, I have another question. Will the Sandbox feature be available in the full release, because I think it's really quite good as a trainer!

Kage

Hello all,

I'm brand new to all this, and have a small question.

When I started up Hegemony Gold, I decided to try out the Sandbox and play as the Spartans - after highlighting a lot of units to make them exit the city of Sparta, I CTD'd and got a message advising me to create a memory dump text file (which I did) to be sent to the devs. What should I do now and how should I send it? (Side note: I have since played as the Illyrians and had no problems).

Also, I have another question. Will the Sandbox feature be available in the full release, because I think it's really quite good as a trainer!

Kage

Welcome to Hegemony, when I get bugs or crashes I usually send them to Rob, which I'm sure he'll tell you to do the same, his e-mail address is: rob@longbowgames.com

Also, what you see in Gold will indeed be in for final release, so that Sandbox mode you like, will defiantly be in :)However, if you are looking for a good trainer to understand the basics and such, I think the Phillip scenario is a better learning tool for you, then the Sandbox mode, so you should check that out if you haven't.

Naturally any other questions feel free to pass em along.

1) Enumerate unit shortcut list.
Quick Select list - On left-Top corner

3) Add addition unit shortcuts, I dont know how, but let discuss..
Maybe we can use "Caps Lock" to have 2 group of 10 quick select

The Archidamian War and the forthcoming Ionian war were never intended to be as long as the Philip campaign. A fairly small percentage of players ever played all the way through the Philip campaign so we thought it made more sense to break the historical scenarios into smaller chunks that more players could complete. And of course with the sandbox there are 26 different ways to start a 50+ hour campaign for those who like the really long game.

Fair enough, I guess I'm always a sucker for longer scenarios, and even in the end, your 2 scenarios combined will still probably give about 20-25 hours per scenario, which is a lot more then most games offer today anyway. Speaking of the sandbox mod, actually tried it out the other day, it's rather intriguing.

I do hope the special units are added soon to each faction, to give at least a little varierty to playing certain factions. Also, not sure how is left to improve the sandbox mode, but I also think there should some sort of submission feature or something, after you've wiped a certain faction, that their cities are far less prone to rebelling, or even after a certain period of time under your rule, they eventually can become allies or something, so at least you can take advantage of the better units. I think it would spice up the Sandbox just a tad bit then just simply conquer the world and all, but that's just another thought for you guys.

Historically, the capture of the Spartan prisoners at Pylos did result in a temporary truce with Athens but we may need to do more work to convey the significance of these actions. There are also cutscenes for the start and end of each new scenario that will ideally help explain the history further.

When your talking about the significance of these actions? You mean before Pylos or after you take Pylos? If you mean the latter, then that open field near Pylos should defiantly lead to an awesome climatic battle, since your basically towards the end of the scenario by the time you land there, so the moment will feel just right I think. However, if you also mean to improve the significance of the objectives before Pylos, then I'm all for that too, so I'm looking forward to what changes are going to be made down the line.

Also hard to believe that you guys are almost done with the Gold Expansion, and then we'll be talking about the sequel soon enough, hehe.

under enumerate i mean to write numbers over quick select icons 1,2...9,0

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popup window when hovering mercenaries unit does not show upkeep cost, it alwayes 0