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Topic: Fun DDM, Matrix House of Horrors , Sunday, 31th Oct, 5 PM PST, 8 PM EST, 1 AM GMT
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Irascible
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posted November 03, 2004 03:16 AM
What I'm trying to say Matrix is that if you have something to say, say it!  Let's see Pab. Number of videos released where extremist Islamic scum bags saw the heads of INNOCENT screaming people off? Lots. Number of militant Christians who've sawed heads off? None. Number of suicide bombers who target babies on buses and women in shopping malls all the name of Ala? Lots. Number of suicidal Christians doing the same in the name of God? None. So no - the extremists from each camp are NOT the same. And I don’t think you know the REAL extremists I speak of. If you do you need to call the FBI right now. Nice try at equivocation though. :P
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=DNX= Matrix
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posted November 03, 2004 06:21 AM
I do say it ras, thats what gets me such a good rep around here lol .... thought you knew that [This message has been edited by =DNX= Matrix (edited November 03, 2004).] IP: |
=CAT=PABLITO
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posted November 03, 2004 11:34 AM
mhh... some facts you may not remember:
- Spanish Inquisition lasted for 1478-1834 (they only killed about around 2,000 people).
http://campus.northpark.edu/history/WebChron/WestEurope/SpanInqui.html
- Hitler was a Roman Catholic, baptized into that religio-political institution as an infant in Austria. He became a communicant and an altar boy in his youth, and was confirmed as a "soldier of Christ" in that church. http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/john_murphy/religionofhitler.html
- (I think we already went through this 
Muslims have extreme gangs, but not all are like that... something people don't realize, just as Christians are not all alike.
In any case... you're entitled to your own opinions, just as I am... but I need to emphasize anyone to not believe that a certain culture is just evil. We all have pros and cons: (Countries, Religions, Cultures, Gender, etc).IP: |
Irascible
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posted November 03, 2004 01:54 PM
A simple principle you may not remember: Despite what the NAACP may tell you, a person's or a group's character is not defined by their past. It is defined by their present day actions. To the extent that I am good or evil is SOLELY defined by a well established and recent pattern of behavior. If someone had been a thief in their youth but turned from that and lived an honest life for the past ten years, they are NOW an honest person.By that measure, and it is the only reasonable one, militant Islam is extraordinarily evil and quite pervasive throughout the world. What's worse is that a HUGE percentage of moderate Muslims are guilty of indifference on the matter. Just as people who believed themselves “good” in WWII Germany turned a blind eye to genocide around them, so too are many so called moderate Muslims turning a blind eye to the terrorists that hide in their mosques. So again, the attempt at equivocation is not borne out by the facts. If there are militant Christians as evil as the militant Islamists, they must hide well because the liberal press would love nothing more than to parade "evil Christians" on TV. Christianity went through its reformation. Islam has not. One IS worse than the other, especially the militant faction, as demonstrated by their own actions.
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=CAT=PABLITO
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posted November 03, 2004 03:30 PM
sigh, no on is good but G-d. That's why most of christians/muslims fall in the same hiprocrite trap. Westerns are gentiles, Middle Easterns are ignorants.
Need more data: Mathew 19.16 Of course violence is not good. But that's why there's a hell and heaven. You hurt people you go to hell, you don't, you may go to heaven... simple as that.. no one needs to fight for G-d. That's the part that I really don't like about muslims, but then again, every religion think is the right one... meh. (We are all creations of G-d).
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Irascible
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posted November 03, 2004 03:48 PM
Indeed. In God's eyes all have fallen. But only now are you invoking God's holy standard. Our previous discussion was concerning the day to day actions of mainstream and militant elements of the Christian and Muslim religions. You attempted to label them equal when they clearly are not. IP: |
coaxs
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posted November 03, 2004 07:29 PM
The KKK are Christians. Burning people at the stake in the name of GOD seems a bit militant to me. Whether the KKK start making beheading videos too, only time will tell. ------------------
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=DNX= Matrix
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posted November 03, 2004 08:00 PM
Looks to me like some1 needs to read deeper into germanic history to better understand them as a race rather than a bunch of genocydal maniacs.IP: |
Irascible
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posted November 04, 2004 01:49 AM
LOL! Check again Coax. The KKK were famous for burning crosses. You're thinking of lynchings. Besides that, you're analogy is flawed in the extreme. The KKK NEVER represented 10% of Christendom. It's widely believed, and it has even been acknowledged by Muslim leaders, that the militant wing of Islam represents about ten percent of their total. That's more than 100 million wackos out there... NOW. The KKK has been relegated to being irrelevant and impotent scum bags on the garbage pile of history. Luckily for us we're currently working on adding another 100 million to the trash heap.IP: |
-DNX-Ni
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posted November 04, 2004 10:22 AM
Thread on DMF is now locked. Bit of a thorny subject it seems.IP: |
=DNX= Matrix
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posted November 04, 2004 10:32 AM
Indeed, sorry about that, but someone (no names), was taking things a little too personal to remain objective; even i am guilty of that at times, but the topic was locked to avoid things getting out of hand.IP: |
=CAT=PABLITO
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posted November 04, 2004 12:25 PM
That's the problem with you humans , all of you think that whatever you think to know is right and everyone else it's wrong. You are selfish and easy to condenm. Yet you don't know that pure hearts wins it all, no matter where you from or what you believe in.IP: |
DJ
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posted November 04, 2004 03:35 PM
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=DNX= Matrix
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posted November 04, 2004 08:21 PM
^^ What he said..... IP: |
coaxs
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posted November 04, 2004 09:23 PM
So islam fundamentalist have 100million members. That is a 100 million man army. That's 100 times China's army? This makes no sense.------------------
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Irascible
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posted November 05, 2004 12:57 AM
Bringing up China's army... now THAT makes no sense. And Pab. Man. LOL. Talk about a bunch of psycho-babble. We were talking Islamic radicals versus an alleged present day Christian equivalent. Then you decided to talk about God's standard of holiness. Now you're dishing out the sickly sweet Hallmark card greetings. Well. OK. But just to remind you of the point you made earlier, no one has a pure heart. So by your own words you shan't be winning it all. IP: |
=DNX= Matrix
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posted November 05, 2004 05:11 AM
That depends on personal definition.... if "no one" has a pure heart, then what was Jesus ? - tainted ?- Im still athiest btw, just talking without justifying it in every sentence. IP: |
CyberCannon
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posted November 05, 2004 10:12 AM
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if "no one" has a pure heart, then what was Jesus ? - tainted ?
Speaking as a Christian, what Ras should have said is that no MAN has a pure heart. Jesus was not just man, but man and God. This makes a big difference, especially when you take into account that Jesus's father was God (and please don't ask me to explain that I figure I will just have to ask God to explain it to me when I get to heaven.) and not a man. In Genesis it is clearly stated that the "sin" nature, and this is what keeps us from ahaving a pure heart, is passed down through the male and not the female.------------------
An Irish Blessing
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May the wind be always at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face.
The rains fall soft upon your fields and,
Until we meet again.
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=CAT=PABLITO
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posted November 05, 2004 10:48 AM
Ras: bunch of psycho-babble? So by your own words you shan't be winning it all...
Argh, of course you didn't think I said I have a pure heart!!!! hello!? if I did I would be doing holy work 24/7.... I was trying to drill in your (how do I put this in the nicest way) in your little americana head that you can't condenm a whole culture. Your overwhelming hatred to islam it's just what they hate about us... You were probably the millions of people (like you said about the "good" in the war II) who looked over how that region was killing themselves, terrorists attacks every other day, and didn't give a crap about them... but now that it happened here... now you really hate them. sigh. But you want to keep talking about Islamic radicals versus an alleged present day Christian equivalent; so, Muslims hate Christians, Christians hate muslims. (If they both hate, then none of them is worthy of my comment). (Jesus did not come here to teach hate but forgiveness; won't recap more vers. from the word, but if you "know" then you'll remember he said to forgive your brother not 7 times but 7 times 7 and so on...) Yes, the old testament (which Islam and Christianity are based upon) says there's a time to eat, kill, etc... but that's what Jesus clear for all of us... of course we hate because we see beheadings... but airstrikes and bombing civilians any better?... (yeah, yeah, collateral damage)... In any case. I repeat myself, you are entitled of your own "opinions" whether they are full of hate or not; just think that new generations will learn any blabling coming out of your mouth and mine, and if all we have to say about it is hate them... then....sigh. Satan is gotta be pretty happy right now.
The really stupid part is that they (muslims) take pride in small strikes that kills a couple of soldiers or beheadings, while the US is killing hundreds of people more into comparison. That's why I think they're so ignorant!... Ras you need to understand that we are all creations of G-d, whether you like it or not.
You can't push the "Jesus" factor on all, but I realized after years of struggling to find the truth, that he's real and he's the Son of G-d that offered love not hate. You can't make me change my point of view. Jesus said, G-d sees the hearts of people, that's why you can be from anywhere: muslim, hindu, chinese, etc, if you have a good heart, you'll go to heaven... the truth should be "explained" (reveal) when you're able to comprehend it. (for most people happens after you die
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=DNX= Matrix
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posted November 05, 2004 12:09 PM
Ya know if ppl REALLY want to to this - theres a religion forum at DMF that used to be moderated by Paranor - if anyone wants to take the reigns im happy to repoen it.Looks to me like its needed. IP: |
=DNX= Matrix
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posted November 05, 2004 01:07 PM
"Ras: bunch of psycho-babble? So by your own words you shan't be winning it all...
Argh, of course you didn't think I said I have a pure heart!!!! hello!? if I did I would be doing holy work 24/7.... I was trying to drill in your (how do I put this in the nicest way) in your little americana head that you can't condenm a whole culture. Your overwhelming hatred to islam it's just what they hate about us... "- Hang on a minute, wasnt it Ras that had a go at me over the nazi tanks in the bz mod, and thereby i must be racist ? After all, i didnt add russian tanks, itallian tanks, muslim tanks etc etc etc, also because i understand the roots of the hollocaust right back to the beginnings of german history, i must also be antisemetic. Muhahahahaa ! [This message has been edited by =DNX= Matrix (edited November 05, 2004).] IP: |
=DNX= Matrix
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posted November 05, 2004 01:11 PM
"you'll go to heaven... the truth should be "explained" (reveal) when you're able to comprehend it. (for most people happens after you die"- I feel it necessary to point out that heaven is still an unproven concept founded by ink on paper. As opposed to your local 7/11 Its about FAITH... nothing more.... Faith manages...... and its all you need to believe. IP: |
=CAT=PABLITO
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posted November 05, 2004 02:02 PM
... I also learned each one has it's own calling... if you haven't had yours, it won't come from me or anyone else, but it needs to be directly from the source... (still an unproven concept founded by ink on paper, As opposed to your local 7/11). When you 'll comprehend nor only you won't need prove but it will be proven to you. [This message has been edited by =CAT=PABLITO (edited November 05, 2004).] IP: |
synack
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posted November 05, 2004 02:28 PM
Admins, this has gone on way too long.This topic needs to be moved out of TM general discussion. IP: |
DJ
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posted November 05, 2004 03:11 PM
I concur......IP: | |